June 22, 2013

  • Relationships: Online Vs Direct Meeting Pros/Cons

    When looking at how people meet each other for relationships, the widely accepted methods are:

    1) Through mutual friends

    2) At the work place

    3) At a party

    4) At a club or some other social event

    5) Chance meeting doing some daily activity

     

    Someone might ask a few questions if one uses one of the “Matchmaker” dating services, but this is also widely acceptable.

    In general, no one blinks or things twice about anyone meeting via those methods. However, anyone engaging in meetups in other “non direct” ways such as:

    1) Printed dating classifieds (old school)

    2) Online dating sites (modern)

    3) Online social networks

    You can get an immediate negative response from folks, as if it’s taboo or weird to meet people without first establishing visual contact. They ascribe weird or dangerous people more likely to be in this dating pool. The stigma can be so influential that many people meeting this way usually change the story to match one of the more traditional ways of meeting if they become a couple.

    In reality, indirect meetings via online pose no greater risk than meeting a casual stranger in real life. People can be funny with how they think- what makes the charming stranger you meet at a party any safer than someone you’ve first met online? Answer – nada. It’s just another avenue available for meeting new people.

    As time goes on however, online dating is slowly being normalized into an acceptable “socially approved” way to meet people.

    So the question comes up – which way is better – “in person” direct meet ups, or first starting online- “non directly” before meeting?

    In my opinion – if done right, meeting online can be superior to meeting directly.

    What? Meeting someone from the net can be “better” than meeting someone directly? That’s crazy talk!- I’m sure several of you are saying that. laughing However, hear me out, as I attempt to prove this by the points I make…

    In Person Direct Dating:

    Pro: Get an immediate visual of person to check for physical appeal, compatibility, and “chemistry”.

    This is among the biggest assets of direct meeting-you immediately see the person and can tell whether you feel any attraction with the way they look and what they have to say.

    Con: Physical attraction/compatibility takes precedence over the more complex emotional/philosophical/intellectual components of a person since they take more time to learn about.

    What usually happens is we tend to get into relationships based more on physical attraction first, then proceed to learn more about the other person. In other words, we use the simpler method of lust/attraction and then “hope” that the more complex aspects of compatibility work out. This process is bass ackwards when you really think about it. whatevah

    Really, think about it – how many dating relationships have you had with very good looking people that didn’t work out? Yet we use the same methods over and over. Direct meeting is great if the intent is just a physical or “fling” type of relationship, but can be problematic if the search is for an LTR.

    The visual attraction aspect is also a problem in that it immediately changes the dynamics of the relationship from the first day of meeting. If we see someone we find very attractive, we usually go into “defense” mode rather than”offense”. By that I mean we don’t ask as many “filtering” questions to find true compatibility because we are more concerned with not getting eliminated ourselves. We’re more likely to “over think” before we speak, which doesn’t lend well to honest straightforward communication.

     

    Online dating:

    Pro: Can learn more about a person’s personality and beliefs. A better early gauge of emotional/philosophical/intellectual chemistry.

    You have the ability to learn more about a person’s true qualities and shortcomings. You are also more willing to be direct and honest with each other since it feels semi-anonymous with little awkwardness plus you’re talking from a place you feel comfortable. This leads to much freer conversations covering more topics. This is where you can, if done right, determine a much better measurement of someone’s true compatibility.

    Con: No visual/direct connection which can lead to several pitfalls. If done right, many if not all of these problems can be avoided.

    Pitfall 1: No instant visual “connection/chemistry” when meeting.

    This is what can sink many budding relationships. The visual becomes the focal point again all other connections go to the wayside. The problem stems from the body/mind making an immediate determination based on how we’ve programmed our mind on who we are attracted too. We feel either attracted, neutral, or not attracted  to someone the instant we see them – a biological response.

    For the cases where there is not immediate attraction, it’s important to realize that time is needed for the body/mid to adjust to someone outside our initial preprogramming.

    This usually happens naturally in other situations. Think about someone you’ve met through work or some other social function that you initially had zero attraction to, or may have even been somewhat repulsed to a certain extent. Then over the course of time through regular interaction you learn more about this person and their personality grows on you. Then something unexpected happens – you find yourself now becoming attracted to this person you previously felt nothings towards. So what happened? As you learned more and started to like who the person was, your mind accepted this person into the “attractive” programming category.

    This happens quite often and is funny when you know a person who says they only want to date a person with (long list of qualifying looks), only to wind up with someone completely different from the list. When you ask them about that disparity, all you get is a sheepish grin. laughing

    By the way, it’s also clear this secondary programming can go the other way – someone you were initially attracted to can become repulsive as you learn more things about them that you dislike.

    So the solution to this pitfall is to give it time – the two folks need to spend time together. You already know you have checkmarks in the complex areas of compatibility, so that should remain the focus through the initial stage.

     

    Pitfall 2: Terminal case of the “Awkwards”

    There’s going to be a level of unfamiliarity with the initial direct meeting, which can trigger shyness/awkwardness. Both people can react off each others awkward feelings which only adds to having a negative experience.

    When meeting, it’s best that at least one person be an “icebreaker” – one that plays the host/lead and isn’t shy- which helps the other person feel more comfortable.

     

    Pitfall 3: Getting in too deep before meeting

    A classic mistake is a couple getting way too “lovey dovey” or sexually suggestive, only to fall into the trap of the “awkwards” when meeting. It’s better to consider it building on a friendship and not focus on too much more than that until after you’ve met. After all, by the time the meeting takes place there should be enough compatibility for a decent friendship at a minimum, even if a relationship isn’t in the cards.

    Pitfall 4: Keeping things too light

    This is the opposite of pitfall #3 – keeping the conversation too light/shallow with no deep conversations, and staying at that level. Without meaningful discussion, it will be harder to determine areas of compatibility. Most of us say the same things when asked what type of person we’re looking for, but you really start getting a good idea about someone after they get comfortable in freely speaking their mind across a range of topics.

     

    If those pitfalls can be avoided, you likely have a much better chance at winding up with a good match over the the “classic” direct methods.

     

    Which also explains a recent article/study noting that people who marry with “online” origins are more likely to have happier marriages and less likely to divorce than those who met in more traditional ways: 

    http://healthland.time.com/2013/06/03/more-satisfaction-less-divorce-for-people-who-meet-spouses-online/

     

     

Comments (20)

  • I met two girls online and those’ve been my only relationships. Using skype helps, and being honest relieves a lot of what could be awkward in the beginning. I think it’s just as good a way as encountering somebody in person, too. 

  • If I was single again, I would just go to a graduate school library.  The attractive smart ladies were always there.

  • Xanga was the best dating site ever.

  • i met this medical student on okc back in the days…it was a great experience. we would have kept dating if i didnt get together with my current bf (met in school through a mutual friend). fast forward 1 1/2 yr, i saw the medical student again two months ago when i was on rotations. we were on the same medical team together at a hospital LOL…on his first day on my team i was like “hey!! i know you!” he was the only person i met off okc..the other guys were creepy to say the least. i wanted nothing to do with them. anyway, i know there are advantages of online vs in person dating, but i just think in person dating is more organic; i prefer it over online.

  • @SoullFire- I think it’s great that you listed the pros and cons for both dating in person and online. I quit dating 7 years because I almost got trapped into marrying a crooked cop. Anyway, if I were to come out of my dating retirement, I still wouldn’t date online. I don’t even do online dating and I have to deal with a lot of men and some women, who think I’m going to send them nudie pics and have cyber sex with them. It’s about as bad me dealing with these same people in real life.

    The difference is that in cyber space there’s more “catfishing,” makes cheating easier, and you never know who’s really behind that screen. It could be a crazed spouse, who’s spying to see if the husband or wife is secretly cheating. Then, he/she begins stalking that other person. Sure, this happens in real life, too. However, when this happens over the screen, it’s much scarier because you don’t know who is really there. Besides that, online dating requires no physical activity and physical bonding. How is that couple going to have a picnic or hold hands, while having a nice stroll around the park, when they’re only a “couple” online? Online dating is good for those, who don’t want to be in a real relationship with people. I’ve had friends, who dated online and they were burned just as badly as dating in real life.

    A former college friend of mine really liked this Canadian girl, who he was dating online. She fed him all this BS about how she wanted to be with him, while she was actually dating another guy where she was. She gave my friend the run around about when they were going to visit each other knowing damn well she never meant it. Being cheated on is already a slap in the face. Being misled and cheated on, while online dating is more like a punch in the face because that person could’ve  dated somebody in his/her presence than having to look at a dumb computer screen. LOL!

  • @loner_writer - True, it’s becoming part of the traditional ways of meeting someone.

    @rxglasshalffull - Online is just an avenue for meeting people, the actual dating can only take place if there’s a decision to meet to meet and things click. I know some folks attempt to have actual dating relationships without meeting but I don’t recommend that since that leads to pitfall problem #3 for starters.

  • @RealistMe - Wait, how does a woman get trapped into marrying someone? I thought only women could “trap” men via the “unexpected” pregnancy? =)

    I think we’re thinking of two different things. What I wrote isn’t about dating someone and having a relationship online. It’s about first meeting someone online prior to meeting them in person. What I believe you’re talking about are people who have full relationships online without ever meeting, which can pose a lot of problems, some of which you’ve listed. Any relationship past being an acquaintance should only be considered after meeting in person. That takes care of cat fishing and all those associated problems.

    Your college friend ran into “pitfall #3″ – getting in too deep by attempting to have a relationship without ever meeting this person. I wouldn’t say he was “cheated on” because in reality – there was never a “real” physical relationship in the first place. Online should only be used so far such as getting to know someone, but you can’t be true friends or anything more until it moves offline to in meeting in person.

  • @SoullFire - Oh okay. As for my situation with the crooked cop, it’s a long story. Actually, now that I think about it, you can read about my situation in my 7-Year Dating Retirement blog either on Xanga, or Blogster. LOL!

    Anyway, you’re right about meeting people online as opposed to in person. People get to learn more about each other online because their guard is down a little more. My guard is partially up and down because like I’ve said earlier, I’ve dealt with my share of crazies and whatnot. It’s just that people can be more deceptive online whether they’re dating or not. Sometimes it’s hard to tell if they’re BS-ing their ways through discussions because you can’t read their body language.

  • @RealistMe - The BS factor is a risk, but that’s the good part about having extending discussions, because a person BS’ing is going to run into trouble keeping all their “stories” straight as the conversation moves on. If one is paying attention, the BS’er will usually start contradicting what they said earlier because it become very difficult to carry a string of lies past the initial shallow talk stage without eventually tripping up. This is a problem both online and offline – some people can lie to your face as if they were telling the truth.

  • @SoullFire - I agree. I normally chat with online friends for HOURS. LOL! I can usually tell if they’re BS-ing me or not. Sometimes it’s easier to spot somebody BS-ing online than in real life. However, I will notice when that person starts getting really defensive for no real reason. I don’t even have to interrogate them about anything and they will get defensive. That especially can be said about drunken posters. That good ol’ liquid courage works as an honest serum. They’ll sometimes drink too much and let it slip out about how they really feel about something or someone.

  • I am thinking some people will always have hangups about meeting someone on line. I don’t really have much of a preference but I will say it is a lot easier to talk with people online, in person if feels like I am under some weird quasi pressure to entertain. I cannot say that I have ever been on a “dating site” but I have met people via social networks. believe it or not I met and dated a young lady I had met on myspace of all places.. 

  • Well… whether it’s in real life or online, I think it’s better when people actually try to get to know one another. But then again, it sounds more practical when you are younger because you have all the time in the world to learn about each other.

    When I first read your post, my initial thought was, “Hey… I’m all for online meeting.” That’s because I met my current boyfriend online in an IRC chatroom when we were in our late teenage years; me 19 and him 20. We started chatting as friends and it was better for us to open up with each other online because we were both introverts, and I was living in a different country. We also wrote letters to each other (writing in our language) and talked about ourselves: our daily lives, school lives, childhood and our friends. That went on for about a year, and I came back to my home country. We didn’t meet each other for months because nobody initiated it. We often talked on phone, though. So starting from mid-2005, it took us about two and a half years to actually start going out–there were also a lot of dramas behind it but that was another story. But my point is that when we actually started going out (in 2008), he was no stranger to me. We were very close with each other and communication was easy, we could talk about almost everything. He’s like my best friend and I’m very comfortable to be around him. And he’s also my very first real relationship, and I sometimes think that I wouldn’t even want to go through that dating thing in case we ever break up. All the rules and uncertainties, I don’t think I can survive that after this long-term commitment with someone who I’ve known for, what, 8 years? I first thought it was because of the ‘online’ part, but on second thought, I think it’s about getting to know each other before actually going out. Rushing things mostly gives negative results.

    Oh well, that’s me, though. I can’t say it applies to everyone.

  • @Pre_K - I meant to include social networks as well- I added it to my list. Thanks for pointing that out. Yeah, some folks will have a bias against certain things, especially if it represents a break from the status quo. However, I’m sure with successive generations, it will be new new status quo.

    @simplysuzu - I think the strength in meeting online first is as you said, it slows things down which gives two people a chance to learn more about each other before proceeding to the physical side of the relationship. When meeting someone in person directly, the order tends to be reversed.

  • good post. I actually met my girlfriend on here (xanga) yea we’ll admit it was first awkward meeting in person the first time even though we talked everyday prior to meeting. I’m really hppy we met this way, for a damn fact. But yea I have so many horror stories of meetig girls online irl. Tyea we alwas end up with someone that doesnt fit our”ideal” look.  I go lucky, my gf is hot

  • Pretty much agree w/ everything you said here.  Especially about getting to know someone first.  I gotta admit I do think it’s still odd to meet someone online, but am really open to it.

  • Personally, I’d much rather meet a guy online first than in person. I never did the dating sites, but I enjoyed the chat lines and social sites. In fact, I met my husband on Asian Avenue. I like the whole emailing thing because I get to know a guy’s intellect from his writing (I like nerds). I’m a little sneaky when it comes to the online thing, but people aren’t always who they say they are behind electronic walls. Some guys are only looking for booty and some are married (and cheating). I never give my number to men; if they want to talk, they have to give ME their number. This way, if he is a total arse, I can just hang up and not ever have to deal with him again (no stalking, harassing, etc.). Men are visual creatures and sometimes they are only into physical or materialistic relationships, so I don’t send them any pictures either. When they ask for a description of how I look, I generally tell them that I’m 4′ 10″, 160 lbs, average with bifocals, etc. If they run for the hill then time to move on lol. If they stay and still have interest then I know it’s my personality and not my looks. They might be a little shock when they see me in person, but they aren’t too disappointed I think? lol. It took me 6 months to give my number to my husband, another year to meet him in person, two more to date him, and another two for marriage. I’m kind of slow on relationships, but trust is important to me. 

  • Oh, and I never did the club or bar thing. I say, whatever happens at the club, STAYS at the club! lol. That’s not really my ideal place to pick up a relationship or husband material worthy guy. I think I’d much rather meet a man at let’s say, a business convention or something lol…

  • I talked about this with one of my friends. when you meet online, there’s  more of a barrier cuz there’s no physical factor. u just connect on a mental level first. and if they can’t pass th e mental level, you can even toss them aside, even though you could have physical attraction. so it’s quite limiting. when you meet in person, you connect on a physical level & if you have time, you can even get to know the person too. so it’s not more common to meet in person, it’s just in general a BETTER FORM. however, I met my xb from a social network and I do not regret it one bit. I thank God for putting me on that site and bringing him to me. he will be immortal in my mind & heart.  

  • Confession: I have an office wife. On a scale of 1 to 10 she is a 4. Never quite found her attractive but lately have gotten close to her. I fear involving myself with her cause she I don’t think she will ‘ever be good enough’ looks wise. Call me what u will but how is it that someone who wants a 5’5 with brown eyes/smile like sunrise yet ends up with a 6 foot and jacked up teeth? I just can’t seem to look past it.
    Anyway, I know this ain’t loveline but thanks for letting me share.

  • ur fuckin’ smawt…..

    That was meant as a compliment…..

    Mitch

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